{"id":10730,"date":"2020-03-04T11:21:26","date_gmt":"2020-03-04T11:21:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/licenseconsulting.com\/non-classifiee\/mars-vs-oracle-affaire-juridique-interessante\/"},"modified":"2020-03-04T11:21:26","modified_gmt":"2020-03-04T11:21:26","slug":"mars-vs-oracle-affaire-juridique-interessante","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/licenseconsulting.com\/fr\/blog-fr\/mars-vs-oracle-affaire-juridique-interessante\/","title":{"rendered":"Mars vs Oracle: Affaire juridique int\u00e9ressante"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hier, j\u2019ai \u00e9t\u00e9 pinged par mon coll\u00e8gue Oracle-On-VMware-Licensing-Guru Dave Welch \u00e0 la Maison de la brique. Il a \u00e9crit un <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><br \/>\n  <a href=\"http:\/\/houseofbrick.com\/mars-vs-oracle\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">article tr\u00e8s int\u00e9ressant<\/a><br \/>\n<\/span> sur Mars d\u00e9p\u00f4t proc\u00e8s contre Oracle. Une partie de la discussion a \u00e9t\u00e9 le point de vue d\u2019Oracle sur la licence des programmes Oracle sur les environnements virtuels. Dans les 2 mois, il a \u00e9t\u00e9 rejet\u00e9. <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Tout d\u2019abord, j\u2019applaudis Mars pour s\u2019en tenir \u00e0 ses armes sur l\u2019application de leurs droits contractuels. Deuxi\u00e8mement, je salue l\u2019analyse bien structur\u00e9e de Dave du mat\u00e9riel disponible et de le faire ressortir au grand jour. Troisi\u00e8mement, je <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">ne<\/span> suis absolument pas surpris de l\u2019issue de ce d\u00e9p\u00f4t devant le tribunal!<\/p>\n<p>Lors de la session VMworld 2012, j\u2019ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 expos\u00e9 le point de vue d\u2019Oracle :<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> \u00ab Le but d\u2019Oracle n\u2019est pas d\u2019aller devant les tribunaux. Leur but est de vous faire d\u00e9penser plus d\u2019argent avec Oracle.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Beaucoup de clients trouvent qu\u2019il est tr\u00e8s difficile de croire qu\u2019il n\u2019y a aucun m\u00e9rite derri\u00e8re les arguments d\u2019Oracle, m\u00eame apr\u00e8s avoir enqu\u00eat\u00e9 \u00e0 plusieurs reprises sur les notes de bas de <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oracle.com\/us\/corporate\/pricing\/partitioning-070609.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">page d\u2019Oracle<\/a> (pour un aper\u00e7u complet de toutes les questions, consultez Don Sullivan <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.vmware.com\/vsphere\/2015\/04\/oracle-licensing-discussion-definitive-collateral-collection.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">VMware Blog post<\/a>).<\/p>\n<h3>Pourquoi il ne fera jamais \u00e0 la jurisprudence Oracle<\/h3>\n<p>Les principaux \u00e9diteurs de logiciels paniquent lorsqu\u2019ils entendent des \u00ab licences \u00bb en conjonction avec le \u00ab verdict du tribunal \u00bb. Pour de bonnes raisons: Si ce d\u00e9p\u00f4t particulier fait au jugement final, j\u2019aurais \u00e9t\u00e9 en mesure de nommer 8 clients en 8 secondes, chacun d\u2019entre eux poursuivrait Oracle pour des dommages-int\u00e9r\u00eats sup\u00e9rieurs \u00e0 un nombre de 8 chiffres ou plus. Ainsi, le risque d\u2019une d\u00e9cision en faveur du client risque de risquer des perspectives de revenus projet\u00e9es aux actionnaires. Les cours des actions baisseraient. Les revenus de vente resteraient en baisse. Le vendeur risquerait des r\u00e9clamations pour des dommages-int\u00e9r\u00eats provenant d\u2019op\u00e9rations conclues dans le pass\u00e9. Enfin, la publicit\u00e9 n\u00e9gative causera des dommages-int\u00e9r\u00eats graves pour tout vendeur. En effet, la cr\u00e9dibilit\u00e9 d\u2019un fournisseur de logiciels serait en jeu.<\/p>\n<p>La r\u00e9solution simple et pr\u00e9visible pour un fournisseur de logiciels est de rendre visite au client, de payer une indemnisation pour les co\u00fbts encourus et de donner un &#8211; disons &#8211; 99,999% de r\u00e9duction sur les licences logicielles requises. Peut-\u00eatre une retenue de prix pour les 5 prochaines ann\u00e9es. Le tout sous NDA. Et un bon rire sur le bateau de Larry sur le diff\u00e9rend pass\u00e9. Avec cela en place, aucun discio raisonnable ou conseiller juridique ne d\u00e9penserait un sou de plus sur un avocat seulement pour le faire venir \u00e0 un verdict.<\/p>\n<p>C\u2019est la seule raison pour laquelle il n\u2019y a pas de jurisprudence Oracle sur ce <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">FUD<\/a>oh-si-\u00e9vident .<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hier, j\u2019ai \u00e9t\u00e9 pinged par mon coll\u00e8gue Oracle-On-VMware-Licensing-Guru Dave Welch \u00e0 la Maison de la brique. Il a \u00e9crit un article tr\u00e8s int\u00e9ressant sur Mars d\u00e9p\u00f4t proc\u00e8s contre Oracle. Une partie de la discussion a \u00e9t\u00e9 le point de vue d\u2019Oracle sur la licence des programmes Oracle sur les environnements virtuels. Dans les 2 mois,&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":10731,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[122,158],"tags":[231,187,160,229],"class_list":["post-10730","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blog-fr","category-oracle-fr","tag-jurisprudence","tag-oracle-fr","tag-virtualisation","tag-vmware-fr","category-122","category-158","description-off"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v25.2 (Yoast SEO v26.8) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Mars vs Oracle: Int\u00e9ressant Oracle jurisprudence - License Consulting<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Mars vs Oracle - Un aper\u00e7u d\u2019une affaire juridique int\u00e9ressante o\u00f9 Mars a contest\u00e9 Oracle devant les tribunaux. 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